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		<title>Comment on 3.14159265358979323846264338327&#8230; by Jesus</title>
		<link>http://bigparadox.wordpress.com/2008/07/04/pi/#comment-477</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesus</dc:creator>
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		<description>3.14159265358979323846264338327

thts wat i know</description>
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<p>thts wat i know</p>
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		<title>Comment on 3.14159265358979323846264338327&#8230; by Magnus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Magnus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had to make a pause because I got so much other things to do, so I had no time to focus on this. 

But that is now a year ago and I have recently been considering to start again, but not sure I can get the time, I am still very busy with other things. 

Thanks for your comment!

Magnus</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had to make a pause because I got so much other things to do, so I had no time to focus on this. </p>
<p>But that is now a year ago and I have recently been considering to start again, but not sure I can get the time, I am still very busy with other things. </p>
<p>Thanks for your comment!</p>
<p>Magnus</p>
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		<title>Comment on 3.14159265358979323846264338327&#8230; by Ada</title>
		<link>http://bigparadox.wordpress.com/2008/07/04/pi/#comment-472</link>
		<dc:creator>Ada</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Oct 2009 16:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ada wants to know why you stopped? Doing 100 per 30 seems like pretty good progress.</description>
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		<title>Comment on 3.14159265358979323846264338327… by frankmurray@charter.net</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 03 May 2009 04:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>good luck- i want 2 memorized the first 500 numbers of pi</description>
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		<title>Comment on 3,600 digits by Magnus</title>
		<link>http://bigparadox.wordpress.com/2008/09/02/3600-digits/#comment-42</link>
		<dc:creator>Magnus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 08:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If each digit would be represented by just one letter, then it wouldn&#039;t really matter how that relationship is set up, provided one works with material where the digits occur &quot;randomly&quot;, like in pi for example, and as long as you use the letters which are most common and let the less common letters be unused. 

That one-to-one relationship is inefficient though and not a very good idea, and there is no need to have it like that.

It is more efficient and smart to let each digit have more than one letter as a possible representation, and that is what I have, and then your question does become a concern. 

I have two letters for each digit. So with this approach it would be bad to, for example, let a digit be represented by two unusual letters like say X and Z. Better then to let X be together with a common letter like T or so, otherwise the digit in question will have unnecessarily few possibilities. Of course, if one digit has less possibilities, then another will have more, but it is similar to when you have two numbers that you multiply and whose sum is constant, like say for example 5+5=10 and 5*5=25, here you could also instead have 3+7=10 (getting the same sum as with the 5&#039;s) but now the product becomes less, 3*7=21. You can think of this as a non-square rectangle and a proper square, if you analyze it mathematically you will see that the square is the way to maximize the area (the product). So with the letters one must achieve some similar balance between how the digits are represented by letters, but the whole thing gets complicated by the fact that various letters in words occurs more or less frequently (depending on the language). 

I have just tried to use some common sense, but I also wanted to make the translation easy to remember, so I let P represent 9, G represent 6, etc. because of their visual similarity. But with unusual letters like X for example, I made sure I combined it with a more common letter, in this case with P.

Then there is this rule I use that the vowels are added to create the 5th and the 10th digit of each group of 10. This is a very good way to create a lot more possibilities, but this is also affecting what we are talking about here. I can just mention here that this aspect of the system, the summing of the vowels, is what increases the possibilities to such a level that I will very often be able to adjust the micro stories (4 words) representing 10 digits so that the story relates nicely to the location I put it in. Like I think I mentioned before as an example, &quot;Sandwich-spread establishes Mexican food&quot; was a story I was able to put inside a restaurant. 

Anyway, all in all, if one really wants to optimize the whole thing, one has to do quite some thinking, and probably the best would be to make a computer program that tries various ways and evaluates each way to see which one is the best, for a given language. I did that with an older system I had, similar to the present system, but I haven&#039;t done it with the present system. The present system is so much better than the old system so I felt there was no big need to do that kind of optimization. But it could be done, and it would maybe be good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If each digit would be represented by just one letter, then it wouldn&#8217;t really matter how that relationship is set up, provided one works with material where the digits occur &#8220;randomly&#8221;, like in pi for example, and as long as you use the letters which are most common and let the less common letters be unused. </p>
<p>That one-to-one relationship is inefficient though and not a very good idea, and there is no need to have it like that.</p>
<p>It is more efficient and smart to let each digit have more than one letter as a possible representation, and that is what I have, and then your question does become a concern. </p>
<p>I have two letters for each digit. So with this approach it would be bad to, for example, let a digit be represented by two unusual letters like say X and Z. Better then to let X be together with a common letter like T or so, otherwise the digit in question will have unnecessarily few possibilities. Of course, if one digit has less possibilities, then another will have more, but it is similar to when you have two numbers that you multiply and whose sum is constant, like say for example 5+5=10 and 5*5=25, here you could also instead have 3+7=10 (getting the same sum as with the 5&#8217;s) but now the product becomes less, 3*7=21. You can think of this as a non-square rectangle and a proper square, if you analyze it mathematically you will see that the square is the way to maximize the area (the product). So with the letters one must achieve some similar balance between how the digits are represented by letters, but the whole thing gets complicated by the fact that various letters in words occurs more or less frequently (depending on the language). </p>
<p>I have just tried to use some common sense, but I also wanted to make the translation easy to remember, so I let P represent 9, G represent 6, etc. because of their visual similarity. But with unusual letters like X for example, I made sure I combined it with a more common letter, in this case with P.</p>
<p>Then there is this rule I use that the vowels are added to create the 5th and the 10th digit of each group of 10. This is a very good way to create a lot more possibilities, but this is also affecting what we are talking about here. I can just mention here that this aspect of the system, the summing of the vowels, is what increases the possibilities to such a level that I will very often be able to adjust the micro stories (4 words) representing 10 digits so that the story relates nicely to the location I put it in. Like I think I mentioned before as an example, &#8220;Sandwich-spread establishes Mexican food&#8221; was a story I was able to put inside a restaurant. </p>
<p>Anyway, all in all, if one really wants to optimize the whole thing, one has to do quite some thinking, and probably the best would be to make a computer program that tries various ways and evaluates each way to see which one is the best, for a given language. I did that with an older system I had, similar to the present system, but I haven&#8217;t done it with the present system. The present system is so much better than the old system so I felt there was no big need to do that kind of optimization. But it could be done, and it would maybe be good.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 3,600 digits by Terry Brown</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 01:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the best letter:  number code?  In other words, what letter/number code allows the most word choices?</description>
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		<title>Comment on Walk extended by Magnus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Magnus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 04:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you, and interesting way to count, maybe that would be the way for me to start making stomach crunches too :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, and interesting way to count, maybe that would be the way for me to start making stomach crunches too <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Walk extended by Dale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Aug 2008 02:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Congratulations. I&#039;ve enjoyed reading about your &quot;journey&quot;. :-)  Very inspiring.

I memorized 1000 digits of Pi last year and I use it to count the 1000 stomach crunches I do each day. It&#039;s much more fun to count that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Congratulations. I&#8217;ve enjoyed reading about your &#8220;journey&#8221;. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />   Very inspiring.</p>
<p>I memorized 1000 digits of Pi last year and I use it to count the 1000 stomach crunches I do each day. It&#8217;s much more fun to count that way.</p>
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		<title>Comment on 3,200 digits by lady-luck</title>
		<link>http://bigparadox.wordpress.com/2008/08/14/3200-digits/#comment-37</link>
		<dc:creator>lady-luck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Aug 2008 20:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow!... i am impressed...:)</description>
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		<title>Comment on 3.14159265358979323846264338327… by Magnus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Magnus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 10:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks! I like to show that this is not something you need to be a savant to do. I am convinced that anyone of average intelligence could easily memorize 1,000 digits like this. 10,000 too, but that requires patience. Then whether this kind of memorizing ability is interesting or not and whether it has any practical value is of course a different question, but as a basic research I think it is intriguing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks! I like to show that this is not something you need to be a savant to do. I am convinced that anyone of average intelligence could easily memorize 1,000 digits like this. 10,000 too, but that requires patience. Then whether this kind of memorizing ability is interesting or not and whether it has any practical value is of course a different question, but as a basic research I think it is intriguing.</p>
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